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*** Named a best podcast of 2021 by Time, Vulture, Esquire and The Atlantic. *** Each Tuesday and Friday, Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation on something that matters. How do we address climate change if the political system fails to act? Has the logic of markets infiltrated too many aspects...

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    The Rise of ‘Middle-Finger Politics’

    <p>Donald Trump can seem like a political anomaly. You sometimes hear people describe his connection with his base in quasi-mystical terms. But really, Trump is an example of ...

    Matter of Opinion: Paul Krugman on Inflation, ‘Bad Vibes’ and 2024

    <p>We’ll be back on Friday with a new episode. In the meantime, we wanted to share one of our favorite recent episodes from our sister podcast, “<a href="https://www.nytimes.c...

    The Deep Conflict Between Our Work and Parenting Ideals

    <p>American policy is uniquely hostile to families. Other wealthy countries guarantee paid parental leave and sick days and heavily subsidize early childhood care — to the tun...

    Birthrates Are Plummeting Worldwide. Why?

    <p>For a long time, the story about the world’s population was that it was growing too quickly. There were going to be too many humans, not enough resources, and that spelled ...

    What a Second Biden Term Would Look Like

    <p>President Biden gave a raucous State of the Union speech last Thursday, offering his pitch for why he should be president for a second term. It’s the clearest picture we ha...

    How America’s Two Abortion Realities Are Clashing

    <p>When the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, it scrambled the landscape of abortion access in America, including in ways that one might not entirely expect. Many conserva...

    Marilynne Robinson on Biblical Beauty, Human Evil and the Idea of Israel

    <p>Marilynne Robinson is one of the great living novelists. She has won a Pulitzer Prize and a National Humanities Medal, and Barack Obama took time out of his presidency to i...

    The Wars in Ukraine and Gaza Have Changed. America’s Policy Hasn’t.

    <p>Joe Biden’s presidency has been dominated by two foreign policy crises: the wars in Ukraine and Gaza. The funding the United States has provided in those wars — billions to...

    Your Questions on Open Conventions, a Gaza Schism and Biden’s Chances

    <p>We received thousands of questions in response to last week’s audio essay arguing that Democrats should consider choosing a candidate at August’s D.N.C. convention. Among t...

    Here’s How an Open Democratic Convention Would Work

    <p>Last week on the show, I <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/opinion/ezra-klein-biden-audio-essay.html">argued</a> that the Democrats should pick their nominee at t...

    Democrats Have a Better Option Than Biden

    <p>Biden is faltering and Democrats have no plan B. There is another path to winning in 2024 — and I think they should take it. But it would require them to embrace an old-fas...

    Best Of: Status Games, Polyamory and the Merits of Meritocracy

    <p>For years, Agnes Callard has been on a mission to take ethical philosophy out of the ivory tower. She examines everyday human experiences — jockeying for status, navigating...

    Building the Palestinian State With Salam Fayyad

    <p>“If only we had a partner for peace.”</p><p>That’s been the refrain in the Israel-Palestinian conflict for as long as I’ve followed it. But the truth is you don’t need just...

    What Relationships Would You Want, if You Believed They Were Possible?

    <p>Around 40 percent of people who marry eventually get a divorce. Almost half of children are born to unmarried women. The number of close friends Americans report having has...

    ‘Why Haven’t the Democrats Completely Cleaned the Republicans’ Clock?’

    <p>Political analysts used to say that the Democratic Party was riding a demographic wave that would lead to an era of dominance. But that “coalition of the ascendant” never q...

    ‘The Strongest Democratic Party That Any of Us Have Ever Seen’

    <p>If you’re a Democrat, how worried should you be right now? It’s strangely hard to answer that question. On the one hand, polls suggest Democrats should be very worried. Pre...

    ‘I Have No Idea How This Ends. I’ve Never Seen It So Broken.’

    <p>It’s been just over 100 days since Hamas’s attack on Israel, and the costs of the war are staggering. In polling from late fall, <a href="https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/961"...

    A Republican Pollster on Trump’s Undimmed Appeal

    <p>The fact that Donald Trump is the front-runner for the G.O.P. nomination in 2024 has created a chasm in our politics. In the past, Democrats and Republicans at least unders...

    Should Trump Be Barred From the Ballot?

    <p>There’s this incredible dissonance at the center of our politics right now. On the one hand, all the polling suggests that Donald Trump is about to win Iowa Republican cauc...

    How to Discover Your Own Taste

    <p>Being on the internet just doesn’t feel as fun anymore. As more of our digital life is driven by algorithms, it’s become a lot easier to find movies or TV shows or music th...

    Tired? Distracted? Burned-Out? Listen to This.

    <p>I’m convinced that attention is the most important human faculty. Your life, after all, is just the sum total of the things you’ve paid attention to. And we lament our atte...

    Best Of: The Most Amazing — and Dangerous — Technology in the World

    <p>“We rarely think about chips, yet they’ve created the modern world,” writes the historian Chris Miller.</p><p>He’s not exaggerating. Semiconductors power everything from ou...

    Best Of: The ‘Quiet Catastrophe’ Brewing in Our Social Lives

    <p>The holidays are one of the most social times of the year, filled with parties and family get-togethers. Many of us see friends and loved ones who we barely — or never — sa...

    How the Israel-Gaza Conversations Have Shaped My Thinking

    <p>It’s become something of a tradition on “The Ezra Klein Show” to end the year with an “Ask Me Anything” episode. So as 2023 comes to a close, I sat down with our new senior...

    India Is Transforming. But Into What?

    <p>India is known as a country of paradoxes, and a new one has recently emerged. At the same time that the country is poised to become a major global player — with a booming e...

    A Different Path Israel Could Have Taken — and Maybe Still Can

    <p>Before Oct. 7, Israel appeared to many to be sliding into a “one-state reality,” where it had functional control over Gaza and the West Bank, but the Palestinians who lived...

    ‘This Is How Hamas Is Seeing This’

    <p>Here are two thoughts I believe need to be held at once: Hamas’s attack on Oct. 7 was heinous, murderous and unforgivable, and that makes it more, not less, important to tr...

    A Lot Has Happened in A.I. Let’s Catch Up.

    <p>Thursday marked the one-year anniversary of the release of ChatGPT. A lot has happened since. OpenAI, the makers of ChatGPT, recently dominated headlines again after the no...

    Best Of: This Is Your Brain on Deep Reading. It’s Pretty Magnificent.

    <p>Every day, we consume a mind-boggling amount of information. We scan online news articles, sift through text messages and emails, scroll through our social-media feeds — an...

    The Best Primer I’ve Heard on Israeli-Palestinian Peace Efforts

    <p>It is too early to talk about a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians. With the trauma of Oct. 7 still fresh for the Israeli public and with the ongoing devastatio...

    The Sermons I Needed to Hear Right Now

    <p>This is a conversation about the relationship between Jewishness and the Jewish State. About believing some aspects of Israel have become indefensible and also believing th...

    Are Democrats Whistling Past the Graveyard?

    <p>A New York Times and Siena College poll released Nov. 5 showed Donald Trump leading Joe Biden in five of the six key swing states, with a notable jump in support among nonw...

    What Israelis Fear the World Does Not Understand

    <p>Earlier this week, we heard a Palestinian perspective on the conflict. Today, I wanted to have on an Israeli perspective.</p><p>Yossi Klein Halevi is a senior fellow at the...

    An Intense, Searching Conversation With Amjad Iraqi

    <p>Before there can be any kind of stable coexistence of people in Israel and Palestine, there will have to be a stable coexistence of narratives. And that’s what we’ll be att...

    She Polled Gazans on Oct. 6. Here’s What She Found.

    <p>The day before Hamas’s horrific attacks in Israel, the Arab Barometer, one of the leading polling operations in the Arab world, was finishing up <a href="https://www.foreig...

    If Not This, Then What Should Israel Do?

    <p>“Two things are true: Israel must do something, and what it’s doing now is indefensible.” So writes Zack Beauchamp, a senior correspondent at Vox.</p><p>Almost a month has ...

    The Conflicted Legacy of Mitt Romney

    <p>After factional infighting dominated the G.O.P.’s struggle to elect a House speaker, it feels weirdly quaint to revisit Mitt Romney’s career. He’s served as governor, U.S. ...

    The Jewish Left Is Trying to Hold Two Thoughts at Once

    <p>Grief moves slowly and war moves quickly. After Hamas assailants killed at least 1,400 Israelis and took hundreds more hostage, Israel dropped more than 6,000 bombs on Gaza...

    Israel Is Giving Hamas What It Wants

    <p>Oct. 7 was Israel’s Sept. 11. That’s been the refrain. I fear that analogy carries so much more truth than the people making it intend.</p><p>Thoughts? Guest suggestions? E...

    We Need Better Narratives About Gender

    <p>It’s a time of contrast and contradiction for gender queerness in America: At the same time that about 5 percent of Americans under 30 identify as transgender or nonbinary,...

    Meet the ‘Angry, Aggrieved’ New Right

    <p>The New Right has been associated with everyone from Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri to right-wing influencers and Catholic integralists. The breadth of the term can make i...

    Two Attorneys Rank the Severity of Trump’s Indictments

    <p>With four ongoing criminal investigations, Donald Trump is the most indicted president in U.S. history. After years of defying unwritten norms, he will now be subject to a ...

    Boundaries, Burnout and the 'Goopification' of Self-Care

    <p>Love it or hate it, self-care has transformed from a radical feminist concept into a multibillion-dollar industry. But the wellness boom doesn’t seem to be making a dent in...

    America’s Top Librarian on the Rise of Book Bans

    <p>Public libraries around the country have become major battlegrounds for today’s culture wars. In 2022, the American Library Association noted a record 1,269 attempts at cen...

    What Have We Learned From a Summer of Climate Reckoning?

    <p>This summer has been a parade of broken climate records. June was the hottest June and July was not just the hottest July but the hottest month ever on record. At the same ...

    It’s Time to Talk About ‘Pandemic Revisionism’

    <p>Should schools have been closed down? Were lockdowns a mistake? Was masking even effective? Was the economic stimulus too big?</p><p>These are the questions that have defin...

    When Great Power Conflict and Climate Action Collide

    <p>The global decarbonization effort is colliding headfirst with the realities of great power politics. China currently controls more than 75 percent of the world’s electric v...

    This Conservative Thinks America’s Institutions ‘Earned’ Their Distrust

    <p>You can’t understand the modern Republican Party without understanding the complete collapse of trust in mainstream institutions that has taken place among its voters over ...

    A Conservative on How His Party Has Changed Since 2016

    <p>The 2024 Republican presidential primary is officially underway, and Donald Trump is dominating the field. But this is a very different contest than it was in 2016. Back th...

    How Martin Wolf Understands This Global Economic Moment

    <p>The world economy has experienced many shocks over the past few years: A pandemic. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Skyrocketing inflation. These are the stories that have dom...

    Biden, Psychedelics, Twitter, My New Book — and So Much More

    <p>As I head into a three-month book leave, I wanted to take some time to address a wide array of listeners’ questions. My column editor, Aaron Retica, joins me for a conversa...

    Barbara Kingsolver Thinks Urban Liberals Have It All Wrong on Appalachia

    <p>When Barbara Kingsolver set out to write her latest novel, “<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/demon-copperhead-barbara-kingsolver?variant=40073146204194" targ...

    What We Learned From the Deepest Look at Homelessness in Decades

    <p>California has around half of the nation’s unsheltered homeless population. The state’s homelessness crisis has become a talking point for Republicans and a warning sign fo...

    What Tom Hanks Thinks of America

    <p>There are few actors as widely beloved as Tom Hanks. Hanks has acted in over 75 films in his 46-year career, winning the best actor Academy Award two years in a row, for “P...

    A.I. Could Solve Some of Humanity’s Hardest Problems. It Already Has.

    <p>Since the release of ChatGPT, huge amounts of attention and funding have been directed toward chatbots. These A.I. systems are trained on copious amounts of human-generated...

    This Taught Me a Lot About How Decarbonization Is Really Going

    <p>The Inflation Reduction Act was the largest piece of climate legislation ever passed in the United States, setting aside hundreds of billions of dollars for decarbonizing t...

    Best Of: A Revelatory Tour of Martin Luther King Jr.’s Forgotten Teachings

    <p>It’s hard to think of a more celebrated figure of the 20th century than Martin Luther King Jr.</p><p>He has a national memorial in Washington, D.C. His birthday is one of j...

    What’s Really Going On in Russia?

    <p>Last weekend, in the course of about 36 hours, Vladimir Putin faced — and then survived — one of the most serious challenges to his rule in over 20 years. An armed rebellio...

    How ‘Being Animal’ Could Help Us Be Better Humans

    <p>One of the oldest human ideas is that we are somehow different from animals, somehow superior to them. That’s a mistake, argues the environmental philosopher Melanie Challe...

    Why This Economist Wants to Give Every Poor Child $50,000

    <p>“Wealth is the paramount indicator of economic prosperity and well-being,” says the economist Darrick Hamilton. He’s right. Policy analysis tends to focus on income, but it...

    What the Heck Is Going on With These U.F.O. Stories?

    <p>Earlier this month, a news outlet called The Debrief published <a href="https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/">a story</a> th...

    Why Do So Few Democrats Want Biden to Run in 2024?

    <p>A recent <a href="https://apnorc.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/April-2023-Trump-Topline-.pdf" target="_blank">AP-NORC</a> poll found that just a quarter of voters, includi...

    What We Learned Reading Ron DeSantis's Books

    <p>Although 12 candidates have entered the Republican presidential race so far, only Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida is <a href="https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/presid...

    What Communes and Other Radical Experiments in Living Together Reveal

    <p>“Today’s future-positive writers critique our economies while largely seeming to ignore that anything might be amiss in our private lives,” writes Kristen Ghodsee. Even our...

    The Book I Wish Every Policymaker Would Read

    <p>My pitch for this episode is simple: Jennifer Pahlka has written one of the best policy books I’ve ever read.</p><p>Pahlka served as deputy chief technology officer in the ...

    Beyond the ‘Matrix’ Theory of the Mind

    <p>Some thoughts on how humans think, how economies grow and why the technologies we think will help so often hurt.</p><p>Column:</p><p>“<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/...

    Fareed Zakaria on Where Russia’s War in Ukraine Stands — and Much More

    <p>A lot about the world has changed since February 2022, when Russia invaded Ukraine. The war itself has brought a number of surprises, from the tenacity of Ukraine’s resista...

    Matter of Opinion: A Look at the 2024 G.O.P. Primary Field

    <p>Today we’re bringing you an episode from the latest New York Times Opinion podcast, “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/matter-of-opinion">Matter of Opinion</a>.” It’s...

    If You’re Reading This, You’re Probably ‘WEIRD’

    <p>Here’s a little experiment. Take a second to think about how you would fill in the blank in this sentence: “I am _____.”</p><p>If you’re anything like me, the first descrip...

    The Teen Mental Health Crisis, Part 2

    <p>The data is clear: Levels of anxiety, depression, self-harm and suicide have spiked for American teenagers over the last decade. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/19...

    The Teen Mental Health Crisis, Part 1

    <p>We’re in the midst of a serious teen mental health crisis. The number of teenagers and young adults with clinical depression more than doubled between 2011 and 2021. The su...

    A Libertarian and I Debate the Debt Ceiling

    <p>On Jan. 19, the United States officially hit its debt limit. In response, the Treasury Department began using accounting maneuvers known as “extraordinary measures” to cont...

    Best Of: A Weird, Wonderful Conversation with Kim Stanley Robinson

    <p>Kim Stanley Robinson is one of the great living science fiction writers and one of the most astute observers of how planets look, feel and work. His <a href="https://www.pe...

    Best Of: Why Adults Lose the ‘Beginner’s Mind’

    <p>Here’s a sobering thought: The older we get, the harder it is for us to learn, to question, to reimagine. This isn’t just habit hardening into dogma. It’s encoded into the ...

    Best Of: How the Fed Is ‘Shaking the Entire System’

    <p>On Monday, First Republic Bank folded before being sold by regulators to JPMorgan Chase. At the time, it was the 14th largest bank in the U.S. and it is the second-largest ...

    The Culture Creating A.I. Is Weird. Here’s Why That Matters.

    <p>In recent months, we’ve witnessed the rise of chatbots that can pass law and business school exams, artificial companions who’ve become best friends and lovers and music ge...

    Democrats: Pay Attention to What’s Happening in California

    <p>California is a land of contrasts. The state is home to staggering wealth, world-remaking tech companies, and some of the world’s boldest climate policy. It also has immens...

    Best Of: The War Within the Republican Party

    <p>On Monday, Fox News abruptly announced that the network and its star primetime host, Tucker Carlson, “have agreed to part ways” after more than a decade. The announcement c...

    Matthew Desmond On America’s Addiction to Poverty

    <p>According to the <a href="https://www.povertycenter.columbia.edu/forecasting-monthly-poverty-data" target="_blank">Center on Poverty and Social Policy</a> at Columbia Unive...

    The ‘Quiet Catastrophe’ Brewing in Our Social Lives

    <p>It’s impossible to deny that the U.S. has a serious loneliness problem. One <a href="https://www.kff.org/report-section/loneliness-and-social-isolation-in-the-united-states...

    This Philosopher Wants Liberals to Take Political Power Seriously

    <p>America today faces a crisis of governance. In the face of numerous challenges — from climate change, to housing shortages, to pandemics — our institutions struggle to act ...

    What Biden’s Top A.I. Thinker Concluded We Should Do

    <p>In October, the White House released a 70-plus-page document called the “<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/ostp/ai-bill-of-rights/" target="_blank">Blueprint for an A.I. ...

    Why A.I. Might Not Take Your Job or Supercharge the Economy

    <p>Typically when we put out a call for audience questions, there’s no single topic that dominates. This time was different. The questions we received were overwhelmingly focu...

    The Most Amazing — and Dangerous — Technology in the World

    <p>“We rarely think about chips, yet they’ve created the modern world,” writes the historian Chris Miller.</p><p>He’s not exaggerating. Semiconductors don’t just power our pho...

    Best Of: A Powerful Theory of Why the Far Right Is Thriving Across the Globe

    <p>In last November's midterm elections, voters placed the Republican Party in charge of the House of Representatives. In 2024, it’s very possible that Republicans will take o...

    Trump’s Legal Jeopardy and America’s Political Crossroads

    <p>Donald Trump’s legal troubles are mounting. A Manhattan grand jury investigation into the hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels could soon make Trump the first former Americ...

    A Radical Way of Thinking About Money

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