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Outdated B2B vs. Changing B2B vs. Modern B2B: Outdated B2B: - Months of planning in advance for campaigns - Content Calendars - "Employee Advocacy" on LinkedIn - Using Gifting for Bribery / Lead Gen - Content Syndication for Lead Gen - Social Display Ads for Lead Gen - Gated eBooks / White papers for Lead Gen - Sponsored Conferences for Lead Gen - Trade Shows for Lead Gen - Webinars for Lead Gen - Sharing "Lead Lists" after Webinars - Blowing 80% of marketing budget on Paid Search - Over-Reliance on Attribution Software - "Connect & Pitch" on LinkedIn - Automated Transactional Emails - Using the phrase "I'd love to..." in Outreach Emails - Long, Unnecessary Product Demos - Fake Personalization - Resumes and Cover Letters - "Paying 2 Play" on sites like Forbes, Inc, etc. - Crying selfies Changing B2B: - Paying Forrester / Gartner's extortion fee - Chatbots (becoming gimmicky / unhelpful) - Pricing pages that don't actually reveal pricing - Messaging written for investors instead of customers - Heavily biased "Case Studies" produced by product marketing - Long, Exhaustive "Pitch Decks" - Growth at "all costs" mindset - Shift to sustainable growth mindset - Shift to product led / buyer led growth - Shift to a more "repless" sales experience Modern B2B: - LinkedIn is your resume - CEO drives strategic narrative (not product marketing) - Fewer form fields: enhanced w/ "How Did You Hear About Us?" - Campaigns are launched within days (not months) - Executives taking control of their own personal brands - Community Building on Podcasts, YouTube, Forums and Social - Answers Marketing / Comments on Threads / Reddit / Slack, etc. - Copywriting for Customers (not VCs or Analysts) - Live Chat w/ Lightning Fast Human Response - Live Hangouts, Q&A, Unscripted Virtual Events - Partnerships, Influencer Marketing, Audio Advertising - Video Advertising w/ Real Stories (instead of boring display ads) - Ungated content w/ an effective distribution strategy - Long-tail, pain point SEO instead of "What is X" - Gifting to strengthen relationships, not start them - Pricing transparency / no games / no gimmicks - Self-service product tours within minutes - Learn new skills on your own: Canva, Loom, iMovie, TikTok, etc. Did I miss anything? What would you guys add to these categories? #marketing #growth 🚀

Drew Brucker

3x SaaS Marketing Leader / 4 Under 40 / Midjourney Expert / Novel brand & creative direction using AI

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Andrei Zinkevich

Co-founder @Fullfunnel.io| ABM & full-funnel marketing for B2B tech companies with high ACV and long sales cycle

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One of the best summaries of modern B2B I've seen so far. I'd add several things. - Turning sales and marketing into a one revenue team that works together on achieving revenue targets and run operations across full funnel with a different focus (marketing: awareness, demand gen and demand capture, sales: demand capture, activation, expansion). - Buyer enablement replaces sales enablement. Buyers don't want to be pushed. They want to find information that helps to solve their specific challenge or answer their questions. When they feel your product or service is the best way to help them, they reach out. You can help buyers choose/consider your product, but you can't push them. Product webinars start replacing product demos. Content hubs start replacing discovery calls. Product demos and discovery calls are still there, but instead of playing around with finding fit and selling the product, they are all about discussing practical solutions.

Todd Kunsman

Head of Marketing @ Jetpack Workflow | Flexible SaaS Marketing Services @ RevFoundry | Founder @ Remote Work Junkie

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Great list and solid breakdown overall! This will ruffle some feathers, even my own a bit haha for example, "employee advocacy on LinkedIn" is not outdated imo and plenty of companies in B2B are doing it well (some are not doing great because of their spammy approach), and majority are not doing it at all (missed opportunity). Naturally you can say I'm a bit biased since I work in that industry, butttttt the results and data doesn't lie from our own use, my individual use, and customers. I think the caveat is those using it to spam the same message at the exact same time, then yup totally agree. Terrible approach and gives the term a bad rep sometimes. Keep this 🔥 content coming! And crying selfies made me LOL, well played to sneak that in 😂

Vijay Vasu

Director of Technology | Ai SEO Transformation | Ex. Uber, Ex. Zendesk, Ex. Consensys

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Hi, Gaetano Nino DiNardi 🇺🇦. Did I like your take on Past, Present,/Modern B2B? Yes! It's brilliant. So glad #seo is still part of Modern B2B. Not paying for clicks and producing thoughtful content that helps your audience is a no-brainer. Or so you would think, but sadly tons of money goes into paying on some Ad groups that are "core/strategic" at the highest CAC and lowest LTV. For years and they keep burning cash. Ungating content is essential if you genuinely want SEO traffic. But it is a hard sell with someone who is more demand gen. traditional marketing Vs. Growth Marketing and who see the bigger picture of loops, journeys, and conversion. Question: In Modern B2B, Are you saying that Marketing moves away from Forrester and Gartner? My stance is yes. Coming from a B2B SaaS background and often selling to developers, I do not think the average dev who lands on your page cares what Forester or Gartner feels about you. They want the free trial and the chance to assess you for themselves. I think carefully developed case studies are mildly critical; people want to see your past success, no? As for Buyer led growth, I am convinced 99% of marketers are still trying to shove people down funnels..

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Diego Oquendo

Head of Marketing @ Catalyst Consulting | A Revenue-Centric Marketing Agency | LinkedIn Top Voice Marketing & Advertising

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Outdated B2B: - Relying on Tactics and Silver Bullets for growth over nailing down Foundations Changing B2B: - Transparency in the sales process, no gimmicks and extra friction to get you to buy / book calls - Jargon and buzzwords, unclear messaging Modern B2B: - Content focused on helping your buyer's current situation & goals, not your metrics or getting leads - Heavy focus on distribution of content, adapted to the platforms that the content is being published on - Similar to point 1 - Blogs focused on educating your audience, not on hacking algorithms or search

David Kirkdorffer (he/him)

VP | Director | Fractional | Marketing | Demand Gen | AI Enabled Marketing | SaaS | 1 IPO 4 Acquisitions ➡️ I Help B2B Tech Companies Grow Revenue

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B2B today exists in far more crowded, more competitive markets than 5 or 10 years ago. Buyers are overwhelmed with information and choices. The challenge for a B2B buyer today is making sense of the many options that all seem to say the same things. So the challenge for B2B sales and marketing is to distinguish offerings and to help buyers make sense of their options. When many capabilities are similar from seller to seller, and solution to solution, what distinguishes one from another is the learning and buying EXPERIENCE each vendor provides.

Bob Kahns

Search, Social, Local: I help businesses be found with digital marketing.

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I'd put most of the "Changing B2B" into Outdated. B2B is slowly moving towards customer centric buying (like most other industries-B2C/D2C- have in past 20 years.) Buyers can research products/services online and get ~80%+ of needed information for purchase online, if not outright purchase. One thing I'd add is changing marketing metrics: - stop measuring success in the form of a lead, but instead by business outcomes: i.e. revenue.

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Eugen Gassmann

Founder of Rainbow Box

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Thank you for putting this list together to start the discussion, Gaetano. I am still puzzled by one thing: We often lump all B2B together as an industry or a segment (at least here on LinkedIn). And as much as I agree that businesses buy differently compared to a consumer (although there are some similarities- at the end there is a human being that makes decisions and rarely in a vacuum), the business world is so nuanced and colorful- I would do a poor job as a marketer to call all Businesses that by from Businesses a segment, I.e. a group that shares the same needs.

So detailed Definitely going to save this post to serve as a quote and reference one day...hope it is allowed? Regardless, The B2B audience are becoming more informed. Make your content strategy match up with the informed audience

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Todd Clouser

The Worst Marketer in the World

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A slightly different take on answering comments/threads: answering comments outside of the initial comment thread so your whole network and the original person can benefit further. For example, if someone asks me "how do I revive a dead community", instead of only replying in-thread, I create a video response, share it publicly and then send that person the response. Allows them to get my own take, and then my entire audience can weigh in with their own advice.

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